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2025 Moonee Valley Vase winner Observer

2025 Victoria Derby Odds Update, Late Mail & Tips

Lucy Henderson November 1, 2025

2025 Victoria Derby Odds Update, Late Mail & Tips

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The 2025 Victoria Derby is set to light up Flemington Racecourse today, Saturday November 1, as the Melbourne Cup Carnival gets underway with a cracking field of three-year-olds stayers assembled for the time-honoured classic.

Below punters will find the ultimate Races.com.au guide to the Victoria Derby with the latest odds, late mail, and expert tips ahead of today’s $2 million feature – everything you need to back a winner in the stallion-making race is right here!

2025 Moonee Valley Vase winner Observer
Observer is the hot 2025 VRC Derby favourite after his Vase win last weekend. Photo: Ultimate Racing Photos.

Set to run as Flemington Race 7 at 4:20pm (AEDT) as the second of three Group 1s on the Derby Day race schedule, this year’s Group 1 $2 million Howden Victoria Derby (2500m) takes centre stage at HQ this afternoon with the best three-year-old colts and geldings will looking to stretch their brilliance in a true test of stamina, class, and timing to kick off Cup week in style.

Observer is the one they all have to beat with last weekend’s Moonee Valley Vase winner dominating VRC Derby betting at $2.35 through Ladbrokes.com.au.

So, is the favourite the one to back or does the Derby Day late mail hint at an upset pending?

Flemington Track Report – Derby Day 2025

  • Meeting: Saturday 1 Nov 2025 – Victoria Racing Club
  • Rail: True Entire Circuit
  • Weather: Fine
  • Total Scratchings: 13
  • Dual Track Meeting: N
  • Track Type: Turf
  • Track Rating: Good 4
  • General Comment: Finalised 1/11 – 7.45am
  • Irrigation: 2mm last 24 hours, 10mm last 7 days
  • Rainfall: 1.2mm last 24 hours, 34mm last 7 days
  • Track Information: Inspection 6AM 1/11; Going Stick 9.1 Inside 9.2 Outside 8.7 Shear 11.8 Moisture 35.8%
  • Rail Position Last Meeting: Out 9m Entire Circuit

Flemington is rated a Good 4 for Derby Day 2025, with ideal conditions expected for the nine-race card.

The famous track is in top order heading into the opening day of the Melbourne Cup Carnival. With fine weather forecast and the rail in the true position, punters can expect a fair racing surface across all distances. The turf has recovered well from recent spring rain, and early reports suggest a slight advantage to runners settling midfield or better, especially in the longer races.

Track manager Liam O’Keeffe confirmed the surface is “in outstanding shape,” with consistent coverage and good moisture retention. The Good 4 rating gives every horse its chance, setting the stage for a cracking day of Group 1 racing, including the Coolmore Stud Stakes (Race 6), Victoria Derby (Race 7) and Empire Rose Stakes (Race 8).

Derby Day 2025 Race Scratchings

  • Race 1: 1 VINROCK (31/10 1807)
  • Race 2: 3 MISS CELINE (1/11 0716)
  • Race 4: 6 LUNA BAY (NZ) (29/10 1313)
  • Race 5: 10 DEPTH OF CHARACTER (30/10 0915), 13 KING ZEPHYR (1/11 0723VC), 14 NDOLA (1/11 0717)
  • Race 7: 17e ARABIAN PRINCE (Eliminated), 18e FREDDIE BASSETT (Eliminated), 19e CRACK A DEEL (Eliminated), 20e SUPER PARADISE (Eliminated)
  • Race 9: 6 GENEROSITY (1/11 0729VC), 9 APACHE SONG (1/11 0701VC), 11 MERRIGOLD (31/10 0816VC)

Flemington Race 7 (4:20PM AEDT) – Howden Victoria Derby

The original 16-starter 2025 Victoria Derby field remains intact with only the emergency runners withdrawn from the line-up after the official Flemington race scratchings for Saturday.

Victoria Derby 2025 Late Mail

No. 1 Observer remains the horse to beat in the 2025 Victoria Derby, with key late mail pointing to his fitness and staying potential.

Trainer Ciaron Maher confirmed that Observer has come through his Vase win in top order, noting his “clean-winded” profile and natural aerobic capacity. Mark Zahra was soft on him late in that run to ensure he’d bounce into the 2500m test fresh and ready.

Other late mail includes:

No. 12 Matsuda will wear headgear after a solid fourth in the Geelong Classic, with connections hoping the gear change sharpens his focus.

Barrier draws have added intrigue with several key runners drawing wide including the Vase runner-up No. 6 Providence (12) and Caulfield Classic winner No. 3 Autumn Mystery (15), potentially favouring those with tactical speed or proven stamina.

Track conditions are rated a Good 4, with Flemington expected to play fair across all lanes.

Victoria Derby 2025 Odds Update

The Ciaron Maher trained Observer remains the standout Derby favourite heading the race day markets, although he has eased out slightly despite his dominant Moonee Valley Vase win on Cox Plate Day.

Providence sits on the second line of betting at $6, while Autumn Mystery has tightened and now approaches single digit VRC Derby odds with early support.

Options, O’Sheamus, and Engine Of War are all hovering around the $14–$21 mark, offering value for those chasing an upset.

With a wide-open field behind the favourite and Flemington rated a Good 4, the stage is set for a classic Derby showdown.

Market Moves

Standout Market Mover:

  • No. 3 Autumn Mystery ($16 into $11)

The Rory Hunter trained Autumn Mystery, a three-quarter length winner of the Group 3 Caulfield Classic at his latest, has been the big mover in 2025 Victoria Derby betting, firming from $16 into $11 despite his wide barrier 15 draw.

The support suggests growing confidence in the gelding’s staying potential and lead-up form, with punters latching onto his late-closing style and strong sectional splits.

Trained to peak over 2500m, he shapes as a genuine threat to the favourites and looms as a value play in exotics chasing a hat-trick.

Support is coming for Autumn Mystery to overcome a wide alley and become the first 3YO to complete the Caulfield Classic - Derby double since Polanski (2013)!

Favourite:

  • No. 1 Observer ($2.15 out to $2.35)

Market Firmers:

  • No. 5 Options ($13 into $10)
  • No. 9 O’sheamus ($15 into $13)
  • No. 14 Savisanta ($19 into $17)
  • No. 16 Deal Done Fast ($35 into $27)

Market Drifts:

  • No. 2 Highvol ($19 out to $34)
  • No. 6 Providence ($5.50 out to $6)
  • No. 7 Azazel ($19 out to $23)
  • No. 10 Amazake ($41 out to $61)
  • No. 11 Engine Of War ($21 out to $23)
  • No. 12 Matsuda ($41 out to $61)

Steady in the Market:

  • No. 4 Miewa ($16)
  • No. 8 Arcora ($46)
  • No. 15 Mcwoody ($51)

Rank Outsider:

  • No. No. 13 One Step Closer ($35 out to $67)

Speed Map Predictions

  • Leader: No. 1 Observer, No. 7 Azazel – have shown early speed in recent runs and are expected to push forward from middle-to-wide gates.
  • On Pace: No. 2 Highvol, No. 12 Matsuda – should settle just behind the leaders, ideally chasing a position one-off the fence.
  • Midfield: No. 5 Options, No. 6 Providence, No. 9 O’sheamus, No. 13 One Step Closer, No. 14 Savisanta, No. 15 Mcwoody, No. 16 Deal Done Fast – are all expected to find a midfield position with cover, conserving energy for a strong finish.
  • Off Midfield: No. 3 Autumn Mystery
  • Off Pace: No. 8 Arcora, No. 10 Amazake, No. 11 Engine Of War
  • Backmarker: No. 4 Miewa – typically settles toward the rear and will rely on tempo and luck to feature late.
Last start winners Observer and Azazel are expected to lead the Derby field and attempt to go all-the-way turning the event into a genuine staying contest!

Speed Map Betting TipsVictoria Derby 2025

No. 6 Providence: Expected to settle midfield with cover, ideal for launching late. Suits a genuine tempo. Best backed in win and quinella combos.

No. 7 Azazel: Likely leader. If the race slackens mid-run, he could pinch it at big odds. Consider for each-way and front-running trifectas.

No. 3 Autumn Mystery: Maps just off the pace and has tactical versatility. Strong place chance and a solid anchor for exotics.

No. 4 Miewa: Backmarker with a booming finish. Needs tempo but offers value in trifectas and first fours.

No. 2 Highvol: Could roll forward and inject speed. Risky but worth including in wider multiples if race turns tactical.

Late Mail Contenders

Top Seed

  • No. 1 Observer (4)

OBSERVER (4) has surged into a dominant favourite after his commanding front-running win in the Moonee Valley Vase on Cox Plate Day. Trained by Ciaron Maher, the son of Ghaiyyath backed up his Caulfield Guineas third with a powerful display over 2040m, controlling the tempo and holding off Providence late. Now stepping up to 2500m on the quick back-up, he’s chasing the rare Vase–Derby double — a feat last achieved by Efficient in 2006. Drawn ideally in barrier four with Mark Zahra retaining the ride, Observer looks primed to deliver another bold performance. If he gets his way up front again, rivals may be chasing shadows.

Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
1st
1. Observer (4) J: Mark Zahra 57kg
T: Ciaron Maher
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

The Danger

  • No. 6 Providence (12)

PROVIDENCE (12) gives Chris Waller a genuine shot at a fourth VRC Derby title, with the Wootton Bassett colt surging into contention after a powerful second in the Moonee Valley Vase behind favourite Observer. That run marked a sharp turnaround from his midfield Gloaming Stakes effort, showing he’s far more comfortable racing the Melbourne way and stepping up in trip. Drawn wide in barrier 12, he’ll need early luck, but with Craig Williams replacing James McDonald, he’s in experienced hands. If Providence can slot in with cover and unleash his trademark finish down Flemington’s long straight, he’s a serious value chance to cause a Derby upset.

Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
5th
6. Providence (12) J: Craig Williams 57kg
T: Chris Waller
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

The Value

  • No. 3 Autumn Mystery (15)

AUTUMN MYSTERY (15) is chasing a hat-trick heading into the Victoria Derby, having most recently scored a strong win in the Group 3 Norman Robinson at Caulfield on October 18, defeating Miewa by 0.8 lengths over 2000m while carrying 57kg at $4.60. Prior to that, he produced a gutsy performance at Flemington on September 21, coming from well back to win by a nose over 1800m against Engine Of War. The unbeaten partnership with his in-form jockey adds confidence, though the wide draw poses a challenge. Still, with momentum and staying form on his side, he looms as a genuine threat.

Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
8th
3. Autumn Mystery (15) J: Blake Shinn 57kg
T: Rory Hunter
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

Best Roughie

  • No. 7 Azazel (10) 

AZAZEL (10) shapes as a genuine value play for a Top 4 finish with the lightly raced gelding rising in grade but hitting form at just the right time. A last-start winner of the Geelong Classic, he’s bred for the staying trip as a son of former Melbourne Cup champion Shocking. Azazel has shown steady progression this prep and retains the services of Michael Dee, a jockey renowned for his timing in big races. If he continues to improve and handles the step up in class, he’s capable of outrunning his generous odds and delivering a surprise result.

Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
16th
7. Azazel (10) J: Michael Dee 57kg
T: Mark Walker
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

Industry Expert Victoria Derby 2025 Tips

Here are the top 4 expert picks for the 2025 Victoria Derby:

  • No. 1 Observer – The dominant favourite, praised for his front-running win in the Moonee Valley Vase and ideal draw. He’s the class runner in the field and profiles well for a Derby win for the punters.
  • No. 6 Providence – A strong closer with staying pedigree, seen as the main danger to the favourite.
  • No. 3 Autumn Mystery – Unbeaten this prep and backed for his powerful finishing burst.
  • No. 16 Deal Done Fast – A roughie with upside, flagged as a sneaky value play for exotics.

Lucy Henderson’s Same Race Multi Selections ($23 at time of publish)

  • Top 2 – No. 6 Providence 
  • Top 3 – No. 1 Observer 
  • Top 4 – No. 7 Azazel 
Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
1st
1. Observer (4) J: Mark Zahra 57kg
T: Ciaron Maher
5th
6. Providence (12) J: Craig Williams 57kg
T: Chris Waller
16th
7. Azazel (10) J: Michael Dee 57kg
T: Mark Walker
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

Victoria Derby 2025 Results

Flemington R7
Final Race time: 
1st
1. Observer (4) J: Mark Zahra 57kg
T: Ciaron Maher
2nd
8. Arcora (11) J: John Allen 57kg
T: Trent Busuttin & Natalie Young
3rd
16. Deal Done Fast (1) J: Daniel Stackhouse 57kg
T: Matt Cumani
4th
13. One Step Closer (2) J: Jye McNeil 57kg
T: John O'Shea & Tom Charlton
5th
6. Providence (12) J: Craig Williams 57kg
T: Chris Waller
6th
14. Savisanta (3) J: Ben Melham 57kg
T: Chris Waller
7th
4. Miewa (8) J: Jordan Childs 57kg
T: Nick Ryan
8th
3. Autumn Mystery (15) J: Blake Shinn 57kg
T: Rory Hunter
9th
9. O'sheamus (5) J: Kerrin McEvoy 57kg
T: John O'Shea & Tom Charlton
10th
5. Options (7) J: Harry Coffey 57kg
T: Tony & Calvin McEvoy
11th
11. Engine Of War (9) J: Tommy Berry 57kg
T: Mick Price & Michael Kent Jnr
12th
2. Highvol (13) J: Jamie Mott 57kg
T: Nick Ryan
13th
10. Amazake (6) J: Declan Bates 57kg
T: Ciaron Maher
14th
15. Mcwoody (14) J: Jamie Melham 57kg
T: Mark Walker
15th
12. Matsuda (16) J: Thomas Stockdale 57kg
T: Ciaron Maher
16th
7. Azazel (10) J: Michael Dee 57kg
T: Mark Walker
For current odds on all of our live racing markets, please visit www.ladbrokes.com.au/racing. Data retrieved: 05/11/2025 12:43:37 AM (Australia/Brisbane)

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