Is Proisir a Better Cox Plate 2012 Bet Than Pierro?

October 26, 2012

Is Proisir a Better Cox Plate 2012 Bet Than Pierro?

They may not have quite the same amount of hype surrounding them as their star stablemate and 2012 Cox Plate top fancy Pierro but the fellow Gai Waterhouse-trained three-year-old Proisir is not without their admirers for the big one at Moonee Valley Racecourse this Saturday.

Waterhouse will saddle up three hopefuls in this year’s $3 million Group 1 Cox Plate (2040m) as she looks to score her first victory in the ‘race where legends are made’.

The shortest-priced of those is triple Group 1 winning Lonhro colt Pierro ($4.60) looking to bounce back after their first career loss when gunned down by fellow Cox Plate hopefuls All Too Hard in the Caulfield Guineas a fortnight ago.

Then there is eight-time Group 1 winning More Than Ready mare More Joyous, backed in from $11 to $9 at bookmaker.com.au, who is also looking to reverse her form after finding the 60kg topweight in the Toorak too much last time.

Also paying $9 in the Cox Plate odds is then Proisir who, like Pierro and All Too Hard, is looking to become the third three-year-old in the past 10 years to beat home their older rivals in the Cox Plate.

They also share something else with Pierro have been defeated as the beaten odds-on favourite in a Group 1 last time out, the Choisir colt’s three run winning streak coming to an end at Randwick on October 6 when they went down to Victoria Derby fancy It’s A Dundeel in the Spring Champion Stakes (2000m).

So can Proisir get the better of their two stablemates and the rest of this year’s intriguing Cox Plate 2012 field? Or will they fall by the wayside as so many other three-year-olds have done before them?

#14 Proisir – Horse Facts

  • Jockey: Craig Newitt
  • Trainer: Gai Waterhouse
  • Owners: Mr A Falcone, Mr M Falcone
  • Age: 3YO
  • Gender: Colt
  • Breeding: by Choisir (AUS) out of Encosta De Lago (AUS) mare Prophet Jewel (AUS)
  • Career: 4-3-1-0
  • Win: 75.00%
  • Place: 100.00%
  • Last 6: 1112
  • Prize Money: $255,230
  • Track: 0-0-0-0
  • Distance: 1-0-1-0
  • Current 2012 Cox Plate Odds: $9

Evidence For Proisir Winning the Cox Plate 2012

  • While 3YO’s have a poor overall record in the Cox Plate, two have won in the past decade with Savabeel (2004) and So You Think (2009)
  • Boasts the second best Win Rate of the field with 75% trailing only Pierro (88.89%) having won three of their four starts to date
  • Barrier 10 isn’t too bad as they can trail stablemate More Joyous (in 11) and stay out of trouble
  • As a three-year-old will carry just 49.5kg, a minimum 7.5kg better than their older rivals
  • Are the only one of the trio of 3YO’s in the race with experience over the 2000m when a close second, not for lack of trying, last start

Evidence Against a Win by Proisir in the 2012 Cox Plate

  • Gai Waterhouse is yet to train a Cox Plate winner
  • 62 three-year-olds have run in the Cox Plate over the years – only four have won
  • Are only lightly-raced (four starts) and it would be a near miracle for a young horse to win a Cox Plate at just start number five in their first preparation
  • A better place bet if you still like them as they are yet to finish out of the money
  • Haven’t raced outside of Sydney so haven’t run the Melbourne way of going or seen the Moonee Valley track ahead of their ambitious Cox Plate bid
  • Have never raced against older horses
  • If you want a Waterhouse runner #12 Pierro ($4.60) has more experience and credentials and #10 More Joyous ($9) is the market mover with eight Group 1 wins to her name already

Read enough to suggest Proisir is worth an Each Way bet in the Cox Plate markets this year?

Whatever horses you’re locking into your locking into your Cox Plate Trifecta for 2012 you can bet with confidence knowing you’re getting the best value for your betting back online at bookmaker.com.au who offer Best of the Best markets.

Racing fields and data are copyright 2011-2021 © Racing Australia Pty Ltd (RA) (and other parties working with it).
Racing materials, including fields, form and results, is subject to copyright which is owned by RA and other parties working with it. Full copyright notice.

Spring Racing

Sandown Guineas 2020 Field �...

2020 Zipping Classic Field �...

2020 Zipping Classic Field & Odds Update: Avilius Firming Favourite

Despite a last start failure in the Melbourne Cup the Godolphin-raced Avilius...

2020 Kennedy Oaks Results: Oli...

2020 Kennedy Oaks Results: Oliver Rides Sixth Winner on Personal

Jockey Damien Oliver celebrated his sixth success in the 162nd running of the...

Kennedy Oaks Day Results 2020:...

Kennedy Oaks Day Results 2020: Personal Wins The Oaks

2020 Kennedy Oaks Day continues the racing action of the Melbourne Cup...

2020 Kennedy Oaks Day: Fleming...

2020 Kennedy Oaks Day: Flemington Scratchings & Track Report

Day 3 of the Melbourne Cup Carnival takes place at Flemington Racecourse...

Horse Racing Today

2021 Doncaster Mile Odds Firm ...

Tancred Stakes 2021 Results Se...

Tancred Stakes 2021 Results See Sir Dragonet Firm in Queen Elizabeth Odds

The Ciaron Maher & David Eustace-trained Sir Dragonet was excellent on the...

2021 Vinery Stud Stakes Result...

2021 Vinery Stud Stakes Results: Hungry Heart Runs Down Harmony Rose

Master trainer Chris Waller is now giving serious consideration to the Group 1...

Emancipation Stakes 2021 Resul...

Emancipation Stakes 2021 Results: Coolmore Legacy Next For Nimalee

The Coolmore Legacy Stakes at Randwick is the next-up option for Matthew...

Australian Derby Odds Firm on ...

Australian Derby Odds Firm on 2021 Tulloch Stakes Winner Yaletown

Sydney’s leading lady of racing Gai Waterhouse is in with a chance to win her...

Race Results

2021 Doncaster Mile Odds Firm on Prelude Winner Yao Dash

Tancred Stakes 2021 Results See Sir Dragonet Firm in Queen Elizabeth Odds

2021 Vinery Stud Stakes Results: Hungry Heart Runs Down Harmony Rose

Emancipation Stakes 2021 Results: Coolmore Legacy Next For Nimalee

Australian Derby Odds Firm on 2021 Tulloch Stakes Winner Yaletown

Race Previews

Doncaster Mile 2021 Odds Update: Punters Stick with Mugatoo

Western Empire Dominates 2021 WATC Derby Field & Betting

Anamoe Slips To Top of 2021 Inglis Sires’ Field & Odds

Montefilia Takes on Boys in 2021 Australian Derby Field & Betting

2021 TJ Smith Stakes Field & Odds: Nature Strip Tipped to Reign Again

Fields & Form

Western Empire Dominates 2021 WATC Derby Field & Betting

Anamoe Slips To Top of 2021 Inglis Sires’ Field & Odds

Montefilia Takes on Boys in 2021 Australian Derby Field & Betting

2021 TJ Smith Stakes Field & Odds: Nature Strip Tipped to Reign Again

Mugatoo Heads 2021 Doncaster Mile Field & Betting Odds